Straight from the Source's Mouth: Frank Talk about Sex and Dating Reviewed

This is an unedited transcript from Castmagic.

Dave Jackson [00:00:00]:
Today, we're checking out straight from the source's mouth, frank talk about sex and dating with Tamara Scone.

Jennifer the AI Voice [00:00:08]:
Welcome to Podcast Hot Seat. We are the friend who lets you know, hey, you got some broccoli stuck in your teeth. Yeah, right there. We make meh shows sound good and good shows sound better. Our goal is to help you make content that grabs your audience and leaves them wanting more. Welcome to the church of constant improvement. Here's your host, multi award winning hall of fame podcaster, Dave Jackson.

Tamata Schoon [00:00:39]:
Yeah. We're getting into some frank talk about sex and dating. What's really interesting about this episode is when Tamara approached me, she said, I wanna give you one of the episodes that's got the least amount of downloads. And I said, that's probably gonna have some low hanging fruit. And she knew that, and I thought that was really cool. And it shows the heart of someone who really wants to make sure they're doing the best they can to maximize their impact with their show. Here's the description of the show from my good friends at Apple Podcast. It says, are you perpetually single? Do you want longer lasting relationships? Tired of the miscommunication and misunderstandings? Wish you were better in bed? Advice from experts as well as real talk from real people so that you can see you're not alone in your thoughts and experiences.

Tamata Schoon [00:01:36]:
I talk about sex in my stand up comedy, and people often tell me that I say what they're thinking but are too afraid to say or admit it to their partners. It's too taboo, they think. We'll talk about books we've read on dating, relationships, and sex so that you can gain knowledge without having to read all the books yourself. I'll interview people on both sides of an issue, people who are great at dating and successful at dating. Learn from the persons who's great and also what not to do. We'll do the same with sex and relationships so that you can learn what works best so you don't need to repeat others' past mistakes. I'll interview sex coaches and love coaches. We intend this to be a how to guide.

Dave Jackson [00:02:21]:
Hit subscribe and join us. And so I asked Tamara we started off with the first questions that we always ask. And the first one is, why are you doing this?

Tamata Schoon [00:02:31]:
Well, I used to do stand up comedy, actually. And I was newly single and dating, and all the all the stuff I talked about in stand up was dating and sex and all that stuff. So I figured I would start a podcast even though it's not funny necessarily. Well, usually. It's more just educational at this point. But, yeah, just I was newly dating and having some sex.

Dave Jackson [00:02:54]:
And so I thought it was maybe to boost her comedy career, and she said that really wasn't it.

Tamata Schoon [00:03:00]:
Yeah. I mean, it's educating. Like, I always my biggest thing is helping people and making a difference. So it's kinda like the my root of everything, and it's educational. I talk about the books. I've read lots of books about all the different dating and stuff and relationships, and I just a lot of people like, I my friends had said previously that I I share information in a way that doesn't feel like like I'm telling them what to do kind of thing. Like, I'm I have a good way of imparting knowledge. So it just kind of all flowed together.

Dave Jackson [00:03:29]:
And so we always need to know, is this a business, or is this more of a passion project?

Tamata Schoon [00:03:34]:
Yeah. Just the the last one. I like to share. I mean, yeah, I haven't done stand up since I started my podcast, so I keep thinking about maybe going back. But, yeah. No. It's just I would just like to share. I don't wanna necessarily do a course.

Tamata Schoon [00:03:46]:
I know a lot of people do that nowadays, and and I've was a health coach before. So, I mean, I could coach. But

Dave Jackson [00:03:53]:
And with that experience, I was like, that's actually a great way to monetize your show if that's what you're looking for. And so when I threw out the idea of, hey, maybe you could be a coach.

Tamata Schoon [00:04:02]:
Yeah. I mean, I I stopped health coaching because there's enough people doing it, and that's kinda how I feel like dating coaching now is, like, everyone's doing it, relationship coaching, life coaching, all that. So I just assume, you know, impart my knowledge this way and let people hear it.

Dave Jackson [00:04:16]:
And this is great. If you don't wanna be a coach, don't be a coach. But just because other people are doing it, doesn't mean they're doing it well. And if you could do it better, and then you could monetize, it's just something to think about. But I think in this case, Tamara was like, I'm just not really interested. She just likes to share. And in that instance, if we're not gonna, you know, count our success in dollars, how are we going to measure our success?

Tamata Schoon [00:04:41]:
I've been doing the whole, like, how many downloads how many downloads every day thing, and I know that's not ideal. So I just, and this topic is, you know, a little more sensitive, so it's not like people are gonna tell you many I've only gotten, you know, a few emails here and there, but people I know that will talk about it to me. But, there's not many people I don't know that would just reach out asking questions, so maybe more engagement.

Dave Jackson [00:05:05]:
So in my notebook, I would write down engagement as the goal. We wanna have because she loves to help people. And the only way to know if she's helping people is if she gets feedback. And since she had mentioned she was counting downloads, they said, okay. What if I wave a magic wand and now you have 25,000 downloads an episode? Now what?

Tamata Schoon [00:05:25]:
I mean, that would be, like, crazy because it's they're nowhere near that. Yeah. I don't know. I just I would know, like, a lot of people like it or at least listen. I don't know if I don't know. I don't have enough feedback from non peep from people I don't know to know what that would mean. It's separate. It sounds good.

Dave Jackson [00:05:43]:
And one of the reasons why you need to know your why is if you don't get your why, well, then you burn out. And in this case, Tamara likes to help people. And so by getting more downloads and getting more feedback, it would be validating.

Tamata Schoon [00:05:58]:
Yeah. I mean, I love hearing from people. Like, my coworkers started listening. She's like, oh my god. I love your podcast. And she's like, she broke up with a guy from listening to it. And I did the same thing. I stopped dating for 6 months after I was interviewing all these people.

Tamata Schoon [00:06:10]:
I was like, wow. Like, oh, I don't do that. Like, oh, just I was realizing some of the mistakes I was making. And I for the first time ever, I was able to just not date at all, have no male exposure or whatever. Like, you know, I just cut it out altogether, and that was the first time I was able to do that.

Dave Jackson [00:06:27]:
And with that, it's time to start listening to her show.

Jennifer the AI Voice [00:06:30]:
Welcome to the straight from the source's mouth podcast. Frank talk about sex and dating.

Dave Jackson [00:06:36]:
So I'm gonna stop there. Mhmm. So you can what?

Tamata Schoon [00:06:41]:
Oh, did I stay?

Dave Jackson [00:06:42]:
That's it. That's your intro. And then you come on, but there's it's one of the things where a lot of people start the interesting show where we interview interesting people with interesting stories. Okay. What's in it for me, the listener? Like, why why are you listening to this? So you just that's it. Like, we talk about sex and dating.

Jennifer the AI Voice [00:07:03]:
Welcome to the Straight From the Source's Mouth podcast, Frank Talk About Sex and Dating.

Tamata Schoon [00:07:08]:
Hello, everyone, and welcome.

Dave Jackson [00:07:09]:
And then we're in. So I I would something just to, like, this is what we're trying to get to. So you can find the, you know, better sex, best relationship, whatever it is your goal is. But that was just when I was like, oh, we don't really know why we're here.

Tamata Schoon [00:07:24]:
No. No. I was trying to keep it short. Like, I've always told, you know, like, you don't wanna keep it so long that people don't know what you're doing. So I try to get right to, like, what we're gonna talk about

Dave Jackson [00:07:32]:
got it.

Tamata Schoon [00:07:33]:
Early on. Yeah. That's why that was my

Dave Jackson [00:07:35]:
feelings about it. I usually say introduce the show and then introduce the episode. And then somewhere in there, if if you want to introduce yourself. And so we'll keep going here.

Tamata Schoon [00:07:46]:
Hello, everyone. And welcome to episode number 18 of season 2, our first episode of the season. My name is Tamara, and you're listening to the Straight From the Source's mouth podcast. Today's guest is Lucy Price, who will be talking about mindset, emotional intelligence, and embodiment around relationships and dating. Welcome, Lucy. Thank you for joining me today.

Dave Jackson [00:08:08]:
So we know who Lucy is no. We know what Lucy is going to talk about, but we have no clue who she is.

Tamata Schoon [00:08:16]:
Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:08:17]:
So there's, like, why am I listening to Lucy? Is she and so there's not that you have to have a PhD, but somebody might be asking now on one hand, your listener trusts you that you're bringing on people that aren't, you know, idiots. But we also it's nice if you go, oh, she wrote the book, has been a coach for x amount of or something like, how did this person get on your how did this person get on your radar?

Tamata Schoon [00:08:45]:
Yeah. And, again, I was, like, trying to keep it short and get to the point Yeah. Of the of the topics because I don't know. I just it was drilled in my head that, you know, that part needs to be shorter. But yeah. I mean Well, that's a line a line or a title wouldn't hurt.

Dave Jackson [00:09:00]:
Yeah. And it's it's not so much because you make a great point. So many people are like, she graduated from such and such high school. Her dog's name is Bernie. She's been married. Like, we don't care. But Yeah. Like, if I had somebody on this show and they were a musician and they worked in the marketing department, but they had a podcast, I'm gonna say they've been podcasting for x amount of years.

Dave Jackson [00:09:22]:
They've got, you know, something that gives them some street cred. Just to answer the question, like, why am I list who is this person and should I especially with today, we're all a little skeptical of everything. So, and it it's not I mean, you're only at 25 seconds. You know, it doesn't you don't have to give the life story. My favorite was I had somebody who read somebody's entire LinkedIn bio and then said, did I miss anything? And I was like, oh, you gotta be you just you just told me their whole life story. So I I appreciate that you wanna get to the point as quickly as possible because that's a great strategy to have, but maybe a little too quick.

Tamata Schoon [00:09:58]:
Too short.

Dave Jackson [00:09:58]:
So we'll keep going here.

Tamata Schoon [00:10:00]:
Thank you so much for having me. Yes. I am glad we we worked it out to to have our time together. Yeah. So, let's just get started. I know we talked about 3 things. So I wanna just start with the first. What or or you can either start with talking about mindset or how you got into this field in general because you're a relationship coach in environment.

Dave Jackson [00:10:22]:
So that sounds like a conversation, like, almost like what I would call a parenthesis talk. You know, how you type something and then you're like, parenthesis, yada yada yada yada. So you're kinda you're kinda doing a, where do you wanna start? Do you wanna do this? Which is fine to have that conversation, but not for the audience. It sounds like something you should have done before, you know, you were you were going on. But there were times when it just there was a talk that I would just say, not a bad conversation to have. Not sure how it made it to the public.

Tamata Schoon [00:10:58]:
Yeah. I'm I'm not the greatest editor. I would say that's my weakest part, and I don't wanna edit much. So I pretty much keep everything in unless it's, like, really bad. And I talk the same way you talked about, parentheses or I write that way. I say things and I put other things in parentheses. So apparently, that's just how my mind works.

Dave Jackson [00:11:16]:
Yeah. And so here's another quick clip here.

Tamata Schoon [00:11:20]:
Yeah. I've read books. And I also I usually talk about books I've read too that kind of promote what we're talking about as well. So it may be at the end if you have any books that you think are really great on that topic. And then also, we can put it in the description of the tag thing as well. Mhmm. Alright. So did you wanna start with mindset now or does or whichever one you wanna start with?

Dave Jackson [00:11:39]:
So, again, great conversation to have before we hit record. And the whole, like, hey. If you have any books, we can put it at the end. Again, great conversation to have, but I was just, like, this is parenthesis talk. And I was kinda like, and it what it does is it kind of it doesn't stall the conversation, but it's kind of like and when you're like, where do you wanna start, this is where you have to take the reins a little bit

Tamata Schoon [00:12:07]:
Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:12:07]:
And say, hey. You you know the 3 things. And I and I realized you're like, where do you usually start with this? Mindset? Do you start with this or that? And when she says it doesn't really matter, I forget what her answer was, then just say, okay. Great. Let's pause for 5 seconds and, like, alright. And I forget what her name was. Let's start with mindset. So this this positions you as, like, I'm organized.

Dave Jackson [00:12:29]:
I know where we're going, and this conversation is gonna flow. And then you just edit out the part where you go, I don't what where do you wanna go? What do you so it's just one of the things that just it's not a huge deal. Like I said, none of this is hard to fix. And here But

Tamata Schoon [00:12:44]:
listening back is painful. I will say that.

Dave Jackson [00:12:46]:
Well, welcome to the club because we we don't see our own stuff. Yeah. The other thing you did, and I just did this for the record. So physician heal thyself. When you interview somebody, is this somebody you've known for a while? Or

Tamata Schoon [00:13:01]:
No. She was on 2 different episodes. I can't remember if this is the first or the second. It must have been the first. We couldn't know we yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:13:08]:
Yeah. I had a a friend of mine on. I've known him for years. And when I listened back to the interview, there were times when I we would just be talking and I would just stop, and you you this is one of the things you did here.

Tamata Schoon [00:13:19]:
So that's where we look at very first right off the bat is, like, what is the beliefs you hold? What is your thought process about things? And is that in support of what you wanna create and what you want to be true, or is that in support of where you are and what's keeping you stuck and what you don't like about your relationships or your life at the moment? Yeah. I can see that. It's very helpful. And knowing the difference between the two is probably where people get stuck, I would imagine. Yeah. And then once you point that out Absolutely.

Dave Jackson [00:13:49]:
And so there's no real question here. And and you did that on a, you did have one, let me see here. You had one really great follow-up question. So you're a great listener. Here's another quick one.

Tamata Schoon [00:14:02]:
Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. And there is

Dave Jackson [00:14:04]:
So that's another one. It makes sense. Okay. So I get that you're agreeing. I I don't know. I just I was like, would you bring somebody on that didn't make sense unless you wanted to argue with them? Again, not a big deal.

Tamata Schoon [00:14:17]:
And there is there more on mindset? Or is that kind of or they I know they probably all run together or support Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:14:23]:
Or I

Tamata Schoon [00:14:23]:
mean feed up.

Dave Jackson [00:14:24]:
All of

Tamata Schoon [00:14:24]:
these all of these run it run together. Like, life is very holistic.

Dave Jackson [00:14:28]:
So, again, just like does that little not that you have to go sentence by sentence, but that doesn't bring the audience really any value in terms of, like, listening to you figure out where do you wanna go next. Now this one, you have a great question here.

Tamata Schoon [00:14:43]:
Yeah. Because we we talked a little bit right before we started recording that.

Dave Jackson [00:14:46]:
Okay. For the record, that's not a huge no no. But when you say, oh because remember, there's somebody at the table sitting right here. And you're like, oh, man. Remember that cool thing we talked about before we hit record that this person didn't get to hear? The audience is like, well, how come I didn't get to hear that part? Why weren't you recording that? It was so good. So I was kinda like, when you say, oh, yeah. We were talking about this before, dear listener. When you weren't here, you missed it, might be the way it comes.

Dave Jackson [00:15:13]:
And, obviously, you're not saying that, but, it's just something it's a phrase I try to avoid.

Tamata Schoon [00:15:18]:
Yeah. Because we we talked a little bit right before we started recording that about sabotage, and I'm guessing it falls into this where you want certain things, but you're doing things that are counter to that. And then you can't stop yourself from doing things counter to that. So and and you can be aware that you sabotage, but how do you actually stop doing this stuff that you know is harmful?

Dave Jackson [00:15:39]:
So I love that. They're like, hey. We're talking about this subject now that we understand what it is. Because if you think about it, people are listening to this because they're trying to date, and, you know, we can all identify what the problem is. And you're like, yeah. Yeah. We know what the problem is. But, like, how do I stop doing this? That'll I've identified that I'm self sabotaging.

Dave Jackson [00:15:59]:
How do I do that? And I was like, now we're talking. Now there's some things that the guy in the car that's listening and the woman at work, it's got one earbud, and it's like, I'm gonna try this later because that's why they're listening. They wanna get better at this stuff. This is, Dave's nitpicky corner. You don't have to do this, but I will just point out.

Tamata Schoon [00:16:17]:
And then the macro is, like, the the more, focus.

Dave Jackson [00:16:22]:
So that's a really easy to remove and so I went through and deleted. She had a couple things there, and I just this is what she would sound like, you know, if you delete some of those stammers.

Tamata Schoon [00:16:34]:
And then the macro is the more focus.

Dave Jackson [00:16:37]:
So instead of the macros, the the bow and and some people look. I I get it. People say ums. And for the record, when I when I kind of pointed this out, I was like, you know what? I think she had, like, 2 spots. And people say, so, you know, my whole thing is I always try to make my guests sound as smart as possible. And that one literally was just highlight delete. So not hard. But on the other hand, she was by no means a person that you're like, oh, everything is, you know, like, right.

Dave Jackson [00:17:08]:
You know, she didn't have a lot of those words that you use over and over. And then you let this little bit of, information come out.

Tamata Schoon [00:17:15]:
Yeah. I can see that. I'm also a resilience instructor, so I can see where that that comes into play examining the evidence of his actually true that he killed a jerk, or did he just forget? Or you can ask him calmly. And then or you can maybe, you know, even have an agreement at some point where you do the dishes instead or, you know, just come up with something rather than just yell at them the second you walk in the door and catch yourself.

Dave Jackson [00:17:38]:
So I thought that clip was great because, a, you kinda like, oh, by the way, I used to do this. So that answers the question, you know, why should I be listening to Tamara? Oh, I've got history in this and that. So I thought that was cool. And I I just loved your example there because probably everybody there can go, yeah, maybe instead of screaming and biting somebody's head off, you know, maybe take a minute to chill out a bit. So, again, great information that you can use when the episode's over. This one, I think I've beat this horde to death, but it's another just kinda behind the scenes.

Tamata Schoon [00:18:12]:
Yeah. As I say, I can see where if you recognize you start to calm down, you're like, oh, actually, I wasn't angry at you as you're having a conversation. I'm actually feeling sad that you said you would do it. And, you know, I you gave me your word and that kind of stuff. So, yeah, I can see where that makes sense. Any more to say on the emotional intelligence side?

Dave Jackson [00:18:32]:
So, again, when you're like, okay. Because on one hand and a lot of times, depending on how you wanna do this, a lot of times because I do this too. Someone will say something and I will go, oh, man. Me too. And then I will tell them a story to which I ask, okay. Here's point number 1, and here's point number 1 again. Do we need me to say the same thing that they just said? And then you you see here where you're like, hey. Did you have anything else you wanted to say? And I've done that before.

Dave Jackson [00:19:00]:
I'll be like, hey. Like, if I've gone through the the typical questions that I have laid out for this person, and we're done. And I'm like, hey. Is there anything else you want me to ask you before we get out of here? And they'll be like, oh, well, I kinda wanted to point out this. And that's always you know, people love that. I'm like, okay. Cool. And then I'll softball up a question and just cut out that whole behind the scenes, like, what do you wanna do next? And then here again, your your ending is I I think you're trying to, like, I gotta keep it short, but the ending is missing a couple vital points.

Tamata Schoon [00:19:31]:
Alright. Thank you for that, and hope you enjoyed this episode of Straight from the Source's mouth, everyone. First episode of season 2, and we're recording in January, but probably gonna be out in early February. So just FYI, and not that all listeners will not know this. But so hope It's easy to look at me. Yes. And we could yeah. Alright.

Tamata Schoon [00:19:54]:
Thanks, everyone. Goodbye.

Dave Jackson [00:19:57]:
Frank saw. Frank saw. Sex and dating. Magic case. So

Tamata Schoon [00:20:02]:
Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:20:03]:
If I wanted to share this with somebody, well, you didn't ask me to, and I have no idea where I can get more of this stuff. So if I happen to stumble across this, there's no, like, hey. If you enjoyed this show, and know somebody else that's struggling with the topics we talked about, why don't you go to your phone and share with this person or just tell them to go to I know your website is a bit of a mouthful. It's straight from the source's mouthpod.net. And so you I know you have another website that you mentioned. You said you actually have 2. So what's the other one?

Tamata Schoon [00:20:37]:
I'll actually have to look. It's it's for Buzzsprout. Like

Dave Jackson [00:20:40]:
Oh, that one. So it's like something something dot buzzsprout.com?

Tamata Schoon [00:20:44]:
Well, act yeah. And they they they changed it to where we can have our full name on there. So I think it is straight from

Dave Jackson [00:20:51]:
Yeah. The whole 9 yards. So when I go to the website, it is a bit of a because that's maybe one of the reasons why you're not saying it is because it's a lot to type in. It's, you know, it's a lot of info there, and I'm not sure what I would change it to. Maybe

Tamata Schoon [00:21:09]:
I actually in all my other episodes, like, this is 18. So I'm at 80 now.

Dave Jackson [00:21:13]:
Okay.

Tamata Schoon [00:21:13]:
The rest of my episodes, I say, if if you like this episode, be sure to tell your friends about it and and rate it as well.

Dave Jackson [00:21:20]:
Got

Tamata Schoon [00:21:20]:
it. And that's, like, my standard thing than the last, I don't know, 50 episodes probably. Perfect. If not 60.

Dave Jackson [00:21:27]:
And in just a second, we'll take a look at our website. Let's go ahead and look at your website. This is built on I'm gonna guess WordPress?

Tamata Schoon [00:21:39]:
No. Actually, it's GoDaddy.

Dave Jackson [00:21:41]:
GoDaddy. Oh, okay. Not horrible, but not a lot of flexibility sometimes. They kinda have a template. You kinda go with it in that whole 9 yards. So, the one thing I was laughing about, because everybody does this, is if I were to search for your name, your website probably wouldn't show up because you just have your first name, Tamara. And I have it's one of those things I found out about that I did, and then I've seen so many people because you know who you are, and you're telling people about you. But if I were to type in, you know, Tamara Scon podcast, it may not show up because your last name isn't on your website.

Dave Jackson [00:22:21]:
So that's kind of a a tricky one. And then is this the exact same, description as what's in Apple Or you

Tamata Schoon [00:22:29]:
No. That's that's just the no. It's not the like, it's not the description the intro description from Podcast. No.

Dave Jackson [00:22:36]:
Okay. Because it just says start out doing stand up comedy by the Well,

Tamata Schoon [00:22:40]:
I'm trying to remember if I started this no. It wasn't from my stand up either. I guess I was maybe trying to have a little of both on there at one point because I think I have a clip of my stand up on there too. So maybe that was why I kinda mentioned it instead. Look at the very bottom is a clip from my stand up.

Dave Jackson [00:22:56]:
Yeah. And then Somewhere. When it says join our community, is that just your email list?

Tamata Schoon [00:23:01]:
Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:23:01]:
Okay. So that's not like a Facebook group or something?

Tamata Schoon [00:23:05]:
I have a Facebook group and I mentioned right here, I mentioned it.

Dave Jackson [00:23:08]:
Or Okay.

Tamata Schoon [00:23:09]:
Join our Facebook group.

Dave Jackson [00:23:10]:
Got it.

Tamata Schoon [00:23:10]:
It's not for you.

Dave Jackson [00:23:11]:
Yeah. And I see here is your stand up on the front page on YouTube. That's awesome. And so yeah. So usually so is this a a website for your podcast or a website for your comedy?

Tamata Schoon [00:23:24]:
It's I mean, for my it was like that I was I think I did it right at the beginning. So I had I was still doing stand up at the time, so I probably wanted to at least have it in there. But now, it's been 3 years of only doing my podcast. So I don't, yeah, I guess I could change it to have the same description.

Dave Jackson [00:23:42]:
Got it. Okay. Because when you go to about us then, typically, what it is is if this is a podcast website, you want the first paragraph to be about the podcast and how they're gonna benefit. You know, sometimes we get way into the weeds, you know. Cheryl and and Dave met in kindergarten and, like, we don't care. We can we we really just, like, who's it for? How do I benefit kind of thing? And then, usually, there's a paragraph about the host. And that's where you could say, Tamara started doing stand up comedy about 20 years of secretly wanting to try. So, you know, that's great.

Dave Jackson [00:24:18]:
Another one here, you have every other Tuesday, which is fine to let people know. But I don't think most people care what the schedule is. I know a lot of people like, oh, we're weekly or 3 times a week. And I I guess that's fine because some people don't want that much content. But for a headline, I'd be like, you know, find you know, have the best sex of your life with the best person you can find or whatever, you know, the benefit is or something that's gonna grab their their attention. And what is an o how do you even pronounce that? Omeguise?

Tamata Schoon [00:24:48]:
O m o m g e s is a website.

Dave Jackson [00:24:51]:
Oh, g e s.

Tamata Schoon [00:24:52]:
That's Female sexual pleasure.

Dave Jackson [00:24:54]:
So the question here is, I saw where they have an affiliate program. Are you an affiliate?

Tamata Schoon [00:24:59]:
I am an affiliate program.

Dave Jackson [00:25:01]:
Because if we're linking to somebody, we might as well and that ties in that's a great example of a product that fits your audience. So that's good. And the recommended books, I I like this thing. It's a it's a little kinda because you have 2 columns here. But you could ask also if you wanted to, you know, add some pictures. It's just a lot of text.

Tamata Schoon [00:25:24]:
With the GoDaddy site, there's not much leeway. Yeah. So and then I had I had to do the links the actual links to the Yahoo or to Amazon below and above.

Dave Jackson [00:25:33]:
I was wondering about, like like, I can't make this transform your sex life a link?

Tamata Schoon [00:25:38]:
Not in the way not the template I was given.

Dave Jackson [00:25:41]:
Yeah. Yeah. GoDaddy, it's, again, it's pretty cheap, I'm gonna assume, and things like that. It just it's I I just saw this and was like, why are you doing it this way? The other thing I noticed is when I go to your your website here and you have you've got your stand up and everything on the front page. If I wanted to listen to a show, you do have a link here that says link to past episodes. And when I do that, it takes me to your Buzzsprout page. And Oh. It actually looks pretty decent.

Dave Jackson [00:26:10]:
The problem is Buzzsprout is getting all your SEO. And so what I would do and this, again, is where, you know, maybe GoDaddy is in the best place. But when you when you have an episode and here, you you've got you know, we're looking at episode 73, and you have all this description. This is all Google food, and Google loves good words. And so Buzzsprout is getting all of the SEO where you could just simply copy this. And I'm not sure how GoDaddy works. But if they have some sort of blogging function, just treat every episode like a blog.

Tamata Schoon [00:26:46]:
I do on the about us page. And I I I give everyone the link for the about us section. Okay.

Dave Jackson [00:26:51]:
It

Tamata Schoon [00:26:52]:
has all that. And then below is all

Dave Jackson [00:26:54]:
There we go. So I can go okay. Perfect. See, I would have then maybe a link up here that says episodes or something just to to make it a little more more obvious. And I'm really happy to see this because I saw you have a what I call a show player. This is one of those players that has multiple episodes, and they're great. It's set it and forget it. The bad news is there's 0 SEO for those.

Dave Jackson [00:27:16]:
But you do have these right underneath here where every episode has its own blog post. This actually looks really nice here because you've got other recent posts here on the right. The one thing I would add then, because the one thing we want people to do to our podcast is to subscribe or follow depending on how old you are. And I would have to know yep. There there's nothing here on the player. So you'd want it

Tamata Schoon [00:27:42]:
Somewhere in there is. I think it's share. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:27:46]:
Okay. Under share. So I would put these links. You can have them there on your player. That's great to have. But somewhere, either at the beginning or the end, you know, like this episode, follow the show for free, and never miss an episode. That's what grows your audience is when it's one thing to get them to listen. I I always use the analogy of, for those of us that remember malls.

Dave Jackson [00:28:10]:
There used to be a guy that would be giving away free little pieces of chicken in front of, like, some sort of chicken sandwich place or whatever. And so when they listen on your website, that's great. But in the same way, you want people to follow your show so they don't have to keep coming back to your website. It's convenient that way, which sometimes is is a good thing and a bad thing. Sometimes people are like, no. No. I want them to go to my website because then they can, you know, buy my stuff or whatever it is. But that's good to see.

Dave Jackson [00:28:37]:
I just I wouldn't I didn't find them. So I came here and saw this. I was like, oh, yeah. And then until I scroll down, I had no idea these were down here. So I would just make a

Tamata Schoon [00:28:46]:
link either Change the name.

Dave Jackson [00:28:48]:
Yeah. Either make a new about us page that's just about us and this and that, and then change this one to to episodes or just add a new one and maybe point it at this page. Like, this could be episodes, and then people could come here and do that. But, again, nothing really crazy. You know, I was just like, oh, it was the the book page was the one I was like, that's a little clunky, and you explained why. That's a a GoDaddy kind of template. But all in all, you know, the the only thing I think I would try to change is maybe have you run into problems before I go trying to solve a problem? It doesn't happen. You know, you have straight from the source's mouth pod.net.

Dave Jackson [00:29:31]:
Have you ever had somebody say, I tried to get your website, but I couldn't spell it or, you know, any

Tamata Schoon [00:29:37]:
No. I mean, I think it's fairly Google able or if that's a word.

Dave Jackson [00:29:41]:
Yeah.

Tamata Schoon [00:29:41]:
I think it's like, I used to get the like, I think that's what GoDaddy is known for, I think, for being fairly good at the SEO and the Google's part of it. Because a lot of people have said that they're surprised how easily they can find it.

Dave Jackson [00:29:55]:
Well, that's good. The other thing I would add to it is, do you have any kind of if I go back to your about page, in the title of your show, do you have anything about sex and dating? Because when I look at the title straight from the source's mouth, I understand you're the source. But, like, in terms of having it, you know, come up or, you know, if I could find it, you know, like, if somebody typed in better sex podcast, I don't know that they're gonna find that. And I see here I went to your show.

Tamata Schoon [00:30:30]:
I added yeah. The Frank talk about sex and dating Good. At the end there.

Dave Jackson [00:30:34]:
Yeah. Because

Tamata Schoon [00:30:35]:
I realized the name didn't help.

Dave Jackson [00:30:37]:
Yeah. Because that's really what you're you need. And was that something you added recently? Or

Tamata Schoon [00:30:43]:
It was fairly soon after I started, I think, where I was like, oh, like, no one knows what this is about. Yeah. And then I just didn't add it to my website, I don't think, now that I think about it.

Dave Jackson [00:30:52]:
That might be. Yeah. And, again, these are the things that, you know, we see it every day. And yet, welcome to the straight from those I mean,

Tamata Schoon [00:31:00]:
yeah, a little small.

Dave Jackson [00:31:01]:
It's down here. Well, that's alright. As long as it's something I can highlight, that means it's findable by Google. I might change this here. Join our community. Do you have any kind of giveaway or anything, like sign up now and get my top ten tips for better sex or something like that?

Tamata Schoon [00:31:18]:
I bought some or made some merch. But no. I don't I haven't had I mean, I thought about putting tips together, actually, but I never I never did.

Dave Jackson [00:31:26]:
Yeah. Because the join our community, everybody's gonna think that's going to Facebook. And so I would just say, you know, join our newsletter and then and even you say here, ask questions and feel free to to make suggestions for new episodes. So, is there some sort of when they sign up, do they get an automated email that says, hey. Thanks so much for joining the newsletter. What would you like to hear on the podcast? Or

Tamata Schoon [00:31:48]:
I I set it up to do that, but there's you know, I haven't had much, traffic there. So I don't even

Dave Jackson [00:31:55]:
The the problem is most people, don't wake up and go, man, I hope I can find a newsletter to sign up for today. You know, we've got but that's why I said if you have any kind of and it doesn't have to be War and Peace. It could just be, like, my top 5 because you've read all these books. You could come up with, here are 5 ways to blah blah blah, you know, better sex, meet the man of your dreams, whatever it is. And then just make it a PDF, and then now you've got you've given a reason. Get my 5 tips. Get my 5 top tips and yada yada yada. So that's Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:32:27]:
Just saying, hey, join my newsletter doesn't make many people sign up.

Tamata Schoon [00:32:31]:
Yeah. No. I was just saying on the subscribe now button, I probably should have pushed that. Oh. I wonder where that takes you.

Dave Jackson [00:32:38]:
Which is great. So when we click on subscribe now, it takes you to Apple. The bad news is 70% of people in Europe listen on an Android phone. And so what would be better would be to have a subscribe page that this would go to, and you've got your links to Apple and Spotify, maybe Amazon, Pocket Cast. You know, it's one of those things if you add all of them, then people don't know what to click on. But you can, go to Buzzsprout and see they have a a stats page that show the top apps. But at least, if you get Apple and Spotify, you've got about 70% of the listeners. So many people promote Apple because we're in the US, and we love Apple, and yay, Apple, and please give me a new phone, etcetera, etcetera.

Dave Jackson [00:33:22]:
But not so much when you get out of the US. In the in Europe, it's all Android all the time. Any questions for me?

Tamata Schoon [00:33:30]:
In the ranking of terrible to good, like, where do I fall, I guess? In the in the people that you've helped with their show.

Dave Jackson [00:33:37]:
Yeah. You said this was what? Episode 18? Yeah. See, that makes so much more sense because this sounds like an episode 18. It it does. It's just little things. It's it's just most of this was just editing.

Tamata Schoon [00:33:49]:
Yeah. But I still do a lot of that. The parenthesis thing. Like, I I say talk about this, and I'm like, or that or that. And I always give them 3 choices. Like, I just can't help but, you know and then people have said take more control too and, like, lead the interview. And I I mean, I I definitely ask more questions later on in other in later episodes versus, like, just I mean, I don't know. And I've also gotten the feedback that they like when I speak, like, add my 2¢.

Tamata Schoon [00:34:15]:
So

Dave Jackson [00:34:16]:
Yeah. Well, that's always I always say when you can make a point with a personal story, that's the best because now they're they're getting the point and they're getting to know you. So that's that's a great point. And, yeah, I would just you know, you've got the I'm assuming you have questions in front of you, or you're just kinda doing the Larry King thing?

Tamata Schoon [00:34:35]:
Yeah. I do the Larry. I mean, like you said, I'm a good listener. So, generally, I have like, I listen enough to ask good questions. And then sometimes, like you did earlier, where I, like, totally lose my train of thought of what I wanted to ask them, and I cannot remember what the heck it was. And I do make little notes here and there maybe, but, generally, it's just a conversation with little editing.

Dave Jackson [00:34:53]:
Yeah. I usually have who's my target audience? I've got that person in my head. I have a clear vision of who that is. What would that person ask if they were sitting in my chair? Because that's your role, is to ask the info. So when you're like, hey, do you have anything else? The flip side of that is, do you do you have enough information for your audience on this subject? And I realized, in some cases, if it's an expert, you're like, well, I don't know this subject. So I don't know if we're done or not. So I get that. But I usually have a couple made out.

Dave Jackson [00:35:22]:
But this is I always call it the plan. But you could ask the first question, and they go off on some sort of tangent. And you're like, oh, that's much more interesting than what I was going to ask you. And so I always have those questions there. And sometimes, I'll never go back. It's just they're like, hey. If I don't have any follow-up questions, I can always fall back on these. But I I usually think about the first one, and I try to get them to tell a story or, like, instead of tell me a little bit about yourself because that opens up the door for them to go, well, was raised in Poughkeepsie, and my grandpa's name was Myrtle.

Dave Jackson [00:35:56]:
You know? And you're like, we don't care. In fact, that was it. The very first part of her story was how she ended up being a relationship coach. And in a way, I kinda didn't care. I just know you're a relationship coach, and you must be an expert or you wouldn't be on the show. So it it might have been, how many years have you been doing relationship coaching? And then he was like, oh, I've been doing this for 13 years. And or, you know, if you know where you're going, I've got these three things coming. You could even say, hey.

Dave Jackson [00:36:27]:
Today, we're gonna talk about such and such and such and such and such. Are these the 3 subjects that you run into the most? Something that because when it's like, well, I I was a coach for health, but then I end up doing artwork. And then for a while, I worked in an auto parts store, you know, and I'm just making that up. But it's sometimes we don't really if it's not a really interesting story where they're like, holy cow. Both her parents were killed in a car accident, and she was able to pull her you know, if it's just like, yeah, I went to this job, and I went to school, and my husband's a jerk. You know, it's like, okay. Sometimes it's, you know, it nobody's, there are 2 things. We we don't highlight the table of contents in books.

Dave Jackson [00:37:07]:
Right? We look at them. Yeah. And then when you go to LinkedIn, we we might read somebody's profile, but it's usually not it's more interesting, like, what are they doing? What's in it for me? And sometimes, we don't need all that background info. I mean, as much as it sounds kinda rude, the audience is in it for them. Like, what's in it for me and and where they came from? And unless it's really interesting, we're like, nope. I'm here to learn about sex and dating. And so when you start off with 8 minutes on somebody's background, you're like, yep. Okay.

Dave Jackson [00:37:38]:
Where's the skip button? So Yeah. And but that's really where you have that instinct already. Like, I know I gotta keep this short and get to the stuff. And you did that, but you you start off kinda with their story. And I was like, oh, here we go with the story. But the good news was it wasn't that long. You got to the, the main point I have here in my notes. You got to your first point of those 3 at by 3 minutes and 15 seconds.

Dave Jackson [00:38:02]:
So not super long, but, you know, some stuff in there. We we didn't really need her backstory, in my in my opinion. That's all this is, of course. Any other questions?

Tamata Schoon [00:38:12]:
I don't know. I have a question. I have more of a like, I feel like editing is where I need the most work, like you said.

Dave Jackson [00:38:19]:
I listen to the question I ask, and then the first thing I listen to is, did they answer the question? I mean, we're we're full throttle into politics, and I don't wanna talk politics. But it's fun watching them get a question, give an answer, and not answer the question. So there are times, especially if you're interviewing people, they get interviewed all the time. You just pull their string, and they know their answer. And so it goes and goes and goes. So I always listen, first of all, did they answer the question? And if you're like, yes. Yes, they did. Great.

Dave Jackson [00:38:49]:
Does that answer bring value to my audience? And if it does, I keep it. And if it's not, the question and the answer go right out the window. And then sometimes I I remember once I was interviewing Adam Curry, and I asked him how long or how much time it took to create an episode of a show. And he thought I said, how long have you guys been doing your show? And so he gave me the entire history of his show with his cohost. So he didn't answer the question, but the question was really interesting because he's never told that story before, so it stayed in. But that's a lot of what I do with that. It's just that and then I edit out me a lot. I will ask a question, but I will give them a ton of background.

Dave Jackson [00:39:29]:
And I'll be like, hey. I know you did this. And for a while, you were working with so and so. And then this happened, and then this happened, and then I asked my question. The audience doesn't need all the backstory. That's for me to give the audio the the guest so they know how to answer the question. But in the end, they you know, it it wasn't like I was asking some sort of life changing question. It was just I was giving them a a premise of that.

Dave Jackson [00:39:53]:
And editing really isn't that hard. It is time consuming, but stuff like that like, if you had a sentence in a Microsoft Word document, how would you get rid of it? Well, you'd you'd drag your mouse over it and press delete. Well, guess how you get rid of it in Audacity? You hold your mouse over it, drag it, and press delete. It's really not that hard.

Tamata Schoon [00:40:12]:
See, I only know GarageBand, and I've only used it to edit. So and I'm I know the basics, and that's it. So that's what I do. But what I'm getting from you is I should have longer interviews so I can edit more stuff out. I only do my 30 minute, 35 minute episode or interview for a 30 minute episode. Like, I I cut out maybe 40 seconds, you know, ever. Well So

Dave Jackson [00:40:32]:
It doesn't have to be 30 minutes. It it also I I go by the, there's a book called Beyond Powerful Radio, and the author is Valerie Geller, and I love this line. She says, there's no such thing as too long, only too boring. And if you think I know I've listened to 5 minute podcast that felt like an hour because it was just, ugh. And then I've listened to hour long podcast. It felt like 5 minutes because it just blew by. You know, when I hear somebody go, well, you know, I'd love to keep this conversation going, but we're up against time. And I'm like, why? Are you on a radio station and Binky and The Wiz are coming in at 2? I'm like, keep going.

Dave Jackson [00:41:08]:
And, you know, you can always edit it out later. But and sometimes, if you have a time constraint because somebody has a heart out or you told them you'd only interview them for 30 minutes, but don't get hung up on that because if you're giving the audience value, they'll they'll listen all day. So I wouldn't get too worried about it. But yeah. Most of my interviews, I don't know, are close to an hour maybe. And then I'll cut that down about 40 minutes, if that maybe 20 in some cases. It depends on the answer again. If it's if it's delivering value, I keep it.

Dave Jackson [00:41:38]:
If not, it it goes. The other thing I always like to point out I didn't hear any example of this here, but sometimes people will go back to a subject. You you can move part a and part b together so you don't go part a. Okay. New topic. Oh, by the way, back here, we talked about this. I wanna go back to that. You can just again, through editing, the magic of editing.

Dave Jackson [00:41:59]:
GarageBand isn't a horror it's a it's really a music program. And the thing I hate about GarageBand is if you wanna delete something, and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a little rusty in GarageBand, but you have to split the track, go to the end of the thing you wanna cut out, split it again, click on it, press

Tamata Schoon [00:42:16]:
Move it.

Dave Jackson [00:42:16]:
Press delete, and then move it. Yeah. In Audacity, it's highlight, delete. My favorite program is Hindenburg, which is the same thing. But, I understand who wants to go through another learning curve. But in the end, the the time you spend learning something like Audacity or Hindenburg is going to save you time because it takes forever to edit stuff in GarageBand, and you're kinda taking it as, well, either I do no editing or if I do editing, it's gonna take forever in GarageBand.

Tamata Schoon [00:42:45]:
As I say, I do I have SquadCast, which is was bought by Descript. So I I have the ability to do it in Descript. Yeah. I just have no idea what I'm looking at when I go in there.

Dave Jackson [00:42:54]:
The fun

Tamata Schoon [00:42:55]:
part about even, like, puts it right in your episode right into Descript for you if you want, but I just never tried it.

Dave Jackson [00:42:59]:
Yeah. The fun part of Descript, because I use it once a week, and about every week, I have to go in and relearn it. They add and everybody says this. It's like they add so many new features and stuff to where like, there's a feature in there called, studio sound, that where you can make your guests sound much better than they did because it was kinda boomy or whatever in the room. And I couldn't tell you right now where it is. They moved it again. And I just have to usually, I have to go to the help menu and type in studio sound. They're like, oh, it's click on this, highlight that.

Dave Jackson [00:43:30]:
It's, it's a great program, but their interface is not great. And if you go through the learning curve, 2 weeks later, you you got another learning curve, and they need to to stop that. But,

Tamata Schoon [00:43:43]:
I Yeah. They're always trying to fix it.

Dave Jackson [00:43:45]:
Yeah. Any other questions?

Tamata Schoon [00:43:47]:
Like, how would you rate

Dave Jackson [00:43:49]:
it? Oh.

Tamata Schoon [00:43:49]:
Generally, I know you said because 18 that you that's more understandable that it's a little less great or whatever.

Dave Jackson [00:43:55]:
Yeah. I would say, here's the thing. Because now that I know your why, because normally, I would look at this and go, well, there's no call to action at the end, not the end of the world again, episode 18. But since the goal of this is education, there was definitely educational stuff in there. There were just those weird parenthesis talks. So, you know, it wasn't horrible. The audio itself, like, for your guest was, you know, doing the typical guest probably using their built in laptop or a Blue Yeti or something like that. That's like, okay.

Dave Jackson [00:44:23]:
There are ways to fix that, but that to me is a little over and beyond. And, you know, when you start talking plug ins to remove reverb and stuff like that. So all in all, it was you know, the audio was good. You you do get right to the point, you know, when it comes in, and here's it. I would just add that y back in, and I would tidy up your website a little bit. And the worst show I've ever heard. I I forget what it was. I remember there was a polar bear on the artwork, and I have no idea what they were talking about.

Dave Jackson [00:44:56]:
It was literally like walking into the middle of a movie. And because there was no intro. It just they came in. They started talking about stuff. I had no idea what it was. And then they were laughing and talking about it. And I was just like, I I have no idea what I'm listening to. And that's one that when somebody goes, why isn't this growing? And I'm like, because I have no idea what this is.

Dave Jackson [00:45:16]:
You know? And it's one of those things some of the things I see people run into is like, oh, my friends say I'm funny. And so that's great. But your friends know all of your history and all those inside jokes make a lot of sense. But when I always bring up the example, and I and I heard this once. Somebody was talking about something and they said orange Gatorade. And the crew erupted into spontaneous laughter. Oh, my god. What? The Orange Gatorade.

Dave Jackson [00:45:42]:
Do you remember the orange orange Gatorade? The whole time, I'm like, what are they talking about? Why is Orange Gatorade funny? But to them, it was. So that's another tricky part. I would just say editing. I would say, you know, Mount Rushmore was a bunch of rocks, and then somebody did editing. You know, there are newspaper editors or book editors, magazine editors, movie editors, TV editors. And if I can make it sound better, why not? So Yeah. For sure. It's just but I realized you I've I've heard you say it a couple of times like, it takes time.

Dave Jackson [00:46:13]:
And sometimes, that's the you know, unfortunately, there's no way to get more of that without cutting out something. So that's why like, right now, as we talk, we're in the middle of football season. I do not watch live football. I record it so I can fast forward through all the commercials, and I can watch a, whatever, 3 hour football game in about 45 minutes. So there are things you can do, and I just quit, you know, watching reruns of Seinfeld and things that I don't need.

Tamata Schoon [00:46:39]:
Yeah. But, I mean, now that I've now hearing it back and just my stumbling and, yeah, all the background stuff that doesn't especially, like, oh, the we're in some January to February. It's like they totally don't need to know any of that stuff. Yeah. And yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:46:53]:
So everybody go over to straight from the source's mouth pod.net. I'll have a link to that out in the show notes. And, Tamara, thanks for, stepping in the hot seat. Have you played around at all with the School of Podcasting with the stuff there?

Tamata Schoon [00:47:08]:
Yeah. I've, I went to your I think the Friday meetup thing, and then I also yeah. Someone had messaged me asking me about my podcast. And so, yeah, I was looking through all the different the sites, so it's easy to maneuver for sure. Excellent. Lots of good info in there.

Dave Jackson [00:47:24]:
Alright. Thank you for your service, and, thanks for coming on the show.

Tamata Schoon [00:47:28]:
Well, thank you very much for having me and telling me about my show. Appreciate it.

Dave Jackson [00:47:32]:
And so I thought before I give you my final thoughts, because we're listening to episode 18, I thought, well, that's not really fair. And so I'm gonna go over and play her latest episode, episode 74, which was released basically yesterday. And let's check out the beginning of the show.

Jennifer the AI Voice [00:47:58]:
Welcome to the Straight From the Source's Mouth podcast. Frank talk about sex and dating.

Tamata Schoon [00:48:03]:
Hello, everyone. Tamara here. Welcome to the show. Today's guest is certified sex therapist Melissa Kilbride, and we'll be talking about sexual health and listener concerns. If you like this episode, be sure sure to tell your friends about it and rate it as well. Thanks for joining me, Melissa. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

Tamata Schoon [00:48:22]:
Yes. I'm excited as well. And I think wait. I usually just jump right into it. So how about if you start off by saying, we talked about, like, why you started this work as Sure. Yeah. Well, I'm a certified sex therapist. I'm also a clinical social worker.

Dave Jackson [00:48:42]:
Yeah. I see, she's giving you a background story. Why don't you take that information and later go in and redo the intro? And then I always say something like, hey. Welcome to the show. And then I always say that when I interview them, and we start there and then cut out the bad stuff. So I like the fact that you ask people to share. I'd probably do that towards the end maybe. But, you know, you're getting there, and that's good.

Dave Jackson [00:49:09]:
Now the big things when I thought about it was and listening to that, you need to take control. You need I I know it's a conversation and things like that, but just know where you're gonna go before you hit record. And then I thought the biggest thing that needed work was the website. You're using GoDaddy, and that's just not a lot of options there. And you are using Buzzsprout. And Buzzsprout just redid their websites. And if you just want a basic page that's organized and pretty for people to listen and follow your show, Buzzsprout has a built in website that's not bad. Now the one thing that Tamara needs, the the built in Buzzsprout website doesn't provide, is the ability to add extra pages.

Dave Jackson [00:50:00]:
And so as much as you know, I'm gonna say, well, you can go get PodPage because that's where I work, and I would recommend that. But if the budget is not there for PodPage, then you could use the Buzzsprout website and then use Notion. Notion is free. Notion is kind of a note taking tool, but you can actually make really laid out, organized list, kind of like what you're doing, that allow you to make clickable links, which you could use for Amazon affiliate links. And then in your show notes, in the descriptions, they have things where you can automatically add things to your show notes. And you could have a little blurb that would be put in that says, check out our bookstore, click here, and that takes you over to Notion. So, yes, that's a hack. But if you're doing it on a low budget, that would be a way to do it.

Dave Jackson [00:50:53]:
Use the Buzzsprout website, and then use Notion to do an additional page, or, of course, just go to podpage, which automates everything and integrates newsletters and everything else that you were trying to do. So those were the things that really, you know, take a little more control, do the editing, all that kinda behind the scenes talk. That's fine. I always say, have your conversation with your guest. Just edit the conversation part out and leave the interview and only leave the parts that deliver value to your audience. We delivered value today. We learned about the intro and everything else. If you would like to sit in the hot seat, you can see it's not all bad.

Dave Jackson [00:51:32]:
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